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Minimalist Flatware,complete by ou8nrtist2 Minimalist Flatware,complete by ou8nrtist2
So I finally got the knife design down and added to the bunch. I've been using these for almost a month and feel the weight imbalance with the long tapering handle is NOT as much of an issue as I first thought. It's not to say these are perfect by any means ,but the whole point was to design a relatively aesthetic and serviceable set in the Minimalist Style that would be easy to manufacture with current laser cutting.
So,I'm willing to make the compromise of the not-so-perfect balance in favor of retaining the clean lines and relatively ease and effort of manufacturing.
By the way these are all in 304 stainless steel.
The spoons and fork are all 12ga.
The knife is 10ga.thick,and VERY sharp.
The notch on the top edge of the knife is for the index finger when cutting meat,or anything else that requires some increase in leverage.
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Artsee1 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
Fabulous job! Quite the impressive set :) I was done after one!! Ha, ha, ha :laughing:


I hope you don't mind, I featured this in my journal [link]
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Professional
Don't mind at all.
In fact I'm honored...I like that you assembled examples of other folks flatware.
Would you join us at metalsmiths ?
[link]
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Artsee1 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
I'm in metalsmiths... one of my favorite clubs :)
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Professional
Oh good,
I didn't see their logo on your front page...
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Artsee1 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
Although... seems like they're down. I have some submissions waiting. Oh well... I imagine it's very busy (maybe even stressful) to run a club-
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Tuja Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
You got featured in my journal :)
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009  Professional
Awesome...
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Tuja Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009
XD
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DreamingDragonDesign Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
I like the knife best. Have you considered a simple two-tined fork design? Sorta like a small meat fork. I'm thinking that you could pull off a minimal design with that shape fairly easily.
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2009  Professional
That is true but I don't like how the two tine design feels in the mouth.I mean it's too easy to stab oneself in the lip...
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DreamingDragonDesign Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
I suppose. I've never liked forks that are too sharp anyway..
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009  Professional
Me either.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
every one of them looks really nice and i can imagine them very well in use. just while the knife is in my opinion the most beautiful of all of these, it feels like the odd one out. it looks so much different from the spoons and fork
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2009  Professional
That is true.
That's why I made another knife that seems a better aesthetic fit.
[link]
And now perhaps the knife design you like so much will be the start of a new and different set...
I like it too.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
mhh... it's a bit better, but still not completely somehow... would the same kind of handle as is on the other three parts of the set interfere with the usage of the knife? because it somehow would seem like the logical choice?
(again, the second knife is really cool, too... could be a third set ;) )
no, just me, really. they're great in any case ^^
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2009  Professional
I think you raise a common issue amongst all designers and artists,
when is a piece actually done?
And indeed the logical choice WOULD be to have the very same handle for the knife,but it won't work.
If you view these objects as tools,they of course have quite specific functions,and as such we grip them differently pertaining to they're ascribed job. The knife is handled in an edge-on manner and so the shape of the handle must be designed to be used in that position. That is also why the knife is cut from thicker stainless sheet (10ga.) My first choice was to take the basic shape of the other handles and curve it slightly so that it would fit better the hand in the edge-on posture. I added the indentations to give greater purchase for the fingers in this position. I knew that it was not perfect ,but was a reasonable enough compromise. All my ideas can stand further improvement,that is my basic belief. But the constraints of limited time and resources always makes one choose at a certain point that the project is done and one moves on...Since this is NOT a commission and I'm exploring these flatware designs on speculation and for my own enjoyment,it DOES give me greater latitude to keep tinkering with the design. My preliminary market testing on various websites has been good.People like the design and see it as unique and fresh. I have also got a good price for laser-cutting from a nearby facility,so these are all good signs that draw me forward. I'll need to come up with about $1000.oo US to invest in a limited edition first run.
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
i know what you mean about things somehow never being quite ready. it happens often that i finish a piece but at the same time already start thinking what i should change to make it better. but then i have the luck that i don't have to (yet) think about how it could be made the fastest and cheapest way. i understand that that puts up a whole new set of limits that a designer has to work with.
it's very interesting to hear the specific reasons as to why the knife looks as it looks, that does help me see it with different eyes.
in any case, i am amazed by your work and while i am mostly fan of the more sculpture-like pieces you do but it is nice to see that you manage to confer the same kind of feeling unto "tools" like these
applause, in any case :)
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009  Professional
Thank you,
I always enjoy the interaction,especially from those (like yourself) who have some understanding of metal and the complex techniques it takes to form and work it...
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ThundersSilence Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2009  Professional Artisan Crafter
:)
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Tuja Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
Wow, this is awesome! I really would like to have this knife, fork an spoon - set! ;)
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009  Professional
Thank you...
They are for sale.
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nonparticipant Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
I'm always a fan of non traditional table ware :) I made some sets myself back in school, some bronze sheet work, and a large set of iron. Neither was entirely functional though.

these look great. :D
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009  Professional
Yeah,
you wouldn't want to put bronze or iron in your mouth repeatedly ,for very long anyway.
Thank you for your compliment.
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nonparticipant Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
nope ;) :)
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nativeart Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2009  Professional General Artist
I like the knife but it doesn't seem to go with the set. In fact I really like the shape of the knife handle much better than the other handles. Personally the pointy ends don't appeal to me much, but then I don't feel like everything in the world should. It is much more interesting to have variety which is why I hadn't mentioned that aspect before. Personally I'm not crazy about the lines where the handle attaches to the bowls either, but again I can live with that as it isn't my set. As always they are very nicely executed and that is all that really matters to my point of view. And the fact that you are working to design something that is new and different is a good thing as I see it.
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2009  Professional
I had some of these same conflicts,
I designed another knife before this one that was even more different...
I think I could spend the rest of my life designing flatware,there are so many possibilities within the functional parameters. This knife works extremely well and as you say it could be the first in another set.
I've been able to post the set on a German design website:
[link]
Maybe this will instigate some manufacturer to contact me...
My greatest pleasure is in making prototypes or "one offs",but NOT in the production work...
I did a fair amount of research (as always) before designing this set.
I felt it absolutely critical to see what was out there already.
Carl Pott was one of the most fascinating designer producers of the 20th century.
He spent his whole life designing and manufacturing flatware.
his designs are still being reproduced today and they aren't cheap either,even though they are all minimalist in appearance...
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nativeart Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2009  Professional General Artist
It is definately a good exercise for the brain to try and come up with something new within a construct such as useful flatware. I like that sort of challenge also and also do not like the production part. I have gotten stuck into producing way too many of a few things and its certainly isn't what I live for. I have to say I think you succeeded in creating a relatively unique set of flatware. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. I think I could also have fun designing flatware. For a short while at least. I think my greatest pleasure is variety. This is one reason I like porcelain so much. There are such different steps I can do design and making of new molds. Then pouring them and cleaning the greenware is a totally different sort of process. Then the painting again so different. By cycling through the various stages it stays rather new and interesting most of the time.
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2009  Professional
I drew a somewhat better knife last night that adheres more to the collective aesthetic of this set.
I went out to the studio early and knocked it out before noon...
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nativeart Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009  Professional General Artist
Sounds good.... need pic.....interested to see it.
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quarkenzyme Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2009
how come the knife handle isnt tapered like the rest?
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2009  Professional
I didn't think it would work,
but I may have to explore that possibility further since this knife looks almost as if it's from another set...
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quarkenzyme Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2009
yup.
i guess its fine though, not like it looks bad. just slightly out of place. hehe
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2009  Professional
I redid the knife,
thanks for your input.
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quarkenzyme Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009
haha wow! no problem! c: though i didnt really think of that as 'input' per se... heheh :aww: but anyway, glad to be able to help! c:
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2009  Professional
Well,
your simple direct question actually got me to reconsider the possibility of a related shape that WOULD be functional.
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quarkenzyme Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2009
hahah cool! its neat to know that a master artist like yourself can even get input from an ignoramus like me! haha pretty cool, i feel like im a part of it now! ;) haha
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ou8nrtist2 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2009  Professional
Good,
Often when you're fully invested in some project,you can't see the woods for the trees.
And all it takes is some impartial observer to make mention of the OBVIOUS to get you to see with fresh eyes once again...
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